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"The Zone of Interest records the greatest phraselet in the English language." Vincenzo Barney
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"The Zone of Interest records the greatest phraselet in the English language." Vincenzo Barney

Vincenzo Barney travelled all the way from Massachusetts to join a panel of eight speakers at the My Martin Amis LIVE show in March this year. If you haven't listen to it already, do go back and hit play.

Since then he has had business on the continent, though Vincenzo could not return home without first visiting Jack in South London to discuss the book Vincenzo considers possibly Amis's greatest achievement, The Zone of Interest.

Published in 2014, The Zone of Interest is Amis's fourteenth novel. The story is set in Auschwitz, where a Nazi officer falls in love with the wife of a camp commandant. Told through three narrators: Angelus Thomsen, the officer; Paul Doll, the commandant; and Szmul Zacharias, a Jewish Sonderkommando, its "compendium of epiphanies, appalled asides, anecdotes, and radically condensed history", according to the writer Joyce Carol Oates, makes it arguably one Amis's most compelling works. Upon publication, many called The Zone of Interest Amis's best novel in 25 years.

As well as diving into the widely-praised film adaptation, Vincenzo explains how, as a 29 year-old writer, he regards Amis's influence on him. On the subject of American literary culture more generally, he describes the "suspicion of melody" that often harms immersive enjoyment of fiction across the pond.

Listen out in particular for the moment where Vincenzo refers to a phrase Amis uses in The Zone of Interest that Vincenzo says he will likely spend the rest of his days trying to match.

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